tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21628789.post2630886097262449313..comments2023-10-30T13:12:32.686-05:00Comments on Pastoral Ponderings: How We Arrived at 'Separation of Church and State'-Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04966936558401164888noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21628789.post-42406600563508303892008-01-21T13:49:00.000-06:002008-01-21T13:49:00.000-06:00>paul- thanks for the reply but your last statemnt...>paul- thanks for the reply but your last statemnt has me somewhat confused- the issue is not the aclu- the quotes came from a book (The Nazi Persecution of The Churches, 1933-45) that chronicled the attack of Hitler against the church.<BR/><BR/>Just reminding people that history has a way of repeating itself; here specifically attacks against the church- regardless who is doing it.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966936558401164888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21628789.post-22334440681298691922008-01-21T13:31:00.000-06:002008-01-21T13:31:00.000-06:00oops I didn't mean to be anon - clicked wrong box ...oops I didn't mean to be anon - clicked wrong box last time.<BR/><BR/>Clearly Hitler was evil and the actions of his regime abhorent and indefensible.<BR/><BR/>But I wanted to illustrate that you can cherrypick Hitler's quotations to defend almost any position.<BR/><BR/>Criticising the ACLU based on the Third Reich is as senseless as claiming that the Third Reich was inspired by the American Constitution that enshrines freedom of worship. But these same quotations could be used to do exactly that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21628789.post-81856364190388071112008-01-21T13:09:00.000-06:002008-01-21T13:09:00.000-06:00>anon- appreciate your comments but I believe you ...>anon- appreciate your comments but I believe you know what Hitler was getting at and his actions prove his points with the killing of Bonhoffer and other pastors who stood against him-<BR/><BR/>No, <B>evil men do evil acts</B> regardless the label they choose for themselves.<BR/><BR/>I am sorry if I misread your defending Hitler- but you and I both know there is a great difference in someone claiming to be a Christian and one who is actually having a vital, dynamic, ongoing, Spirit led relationship with Him- at least I hope you do. ;>)Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966936558401164888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21628789.post-89140788564223967132008-01-21T11:04:00.000-06:002008-01-21T11:04:00.000-06:00Note that the quote is "Politics do not belong in ...Note that the quote is "Politics do not belong in the Church“ not the Church does not belong in politics. Different things entirely.<BR/><BR/>Hitler was also a Christian. Are you saying Christianity leads to evil?<BR/><BR/>"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator” <BR/>Adolf Hitler, Mein KampfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com